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Ravitch Says New Evaluation System Is 'Madness'

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Feb. 22, 2012, 7:57 a.m.

The public schools may be closed all week for February Break, but critics and other writers are busy examining the new teacher evaluation agreement that was reached last week.

The education historian and writer, Diane Ravitch, paints a picture of the teacher evaluation system that offers a sobering contrast to the giddiness that greeted the announcement of the agreement with the city, state and teachers’ unions.

On The New York Review of Books blog, NYR, in a post titled “No Child Left Untested,” Ms. Ravitch calls it “madness” to rely on a system of teacher accountability based on student test scores.

The new evaluation system pretends to be balanced, but it is not. Teachers will be ranked on a scale of 1-100. Teachers will be rated as “ineffective, developing, effective or highly effective.” Forty percent of their grade will be based on the rise or fall of student test scores; the other 60 percent will be based on other measures, such as classroom observations by principals, independent evaluators, and peers, plus feedback from students and parents.

But one sentence in the agreement shows what matters most: “Teachers rated ineffective on student performance based on objective assessments must be rated ineffective over all.” What this means is that a teacher who does not raise test scores will be found ineffective over all, no matter how well he or she does with the remaining 60 percent. In other words, the 40 percent allocated to student performance actually counts for 100 percent. Two years of ineffective ratings and the teacher is fired.

She goes on to say:

No high-performing nation in the world evaluates teachers by the test scores of their students; and no state or district in this nation has a successful program of this kind.

Compounding the problem, she writes, is the inability of the United Federation of Teachers to block a legal push by the media to publish the data reports of teachers a few years ago that issued grades based on improvements in student test scores, known as “value-added.”

The consequences of these policies will not be pretty. If the way these ratings are calculated is flawed, as most testing experts acknowledge they are, then many good educators will be subject to public humiliation and will leave the profession. Once those scores are released to the media, we can expect that parents will object if their children are assigned to “bad” teachers, and principals will have a logistical nightmare trying to squeeze most children into the classes of the highest-ranked teachers. Will parents sue if their children do not get the “best” teachers?

Ms. Ravitch does not defend unsuitable teachers. But she objects to doing it based so extensively on test scores.

Of course, teachers should be evaluated. They should be evaluated by experienced principals and peers. No incompetent teacher should be allowed to remain in the classroom. Those who can’t teach and can’t improve should be fired. But the current frenzy of blaming teachers for low scores smacks of a witch-hunt, the search for a scapegoat, someone to blame for a faltering economy, for the growing levels of poverty, for widening income inequality.

In The Daily News, the columnist Juan Gonzalez takes on the same subject, saying the combination of the new evaluation system and the public release of teacher ratings signals “a new low” for the public schools.

Pointing out flaws in the system, and the city’s failure to react to critics’ objections to the implementation of many of Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s education initiatives, he writes:

This fixation on rating of teachers by test scores is a diversion concocted by the city’s political elite. That elite doesn’t want to admit that 10 years of mayoral control of our schools has been a failure. Still, a recent poll found 57 percent of voters believed it was; only 24 percent thought Bloomberg’s policies have been a success.

Mr. Gonzalez quotes Aaron Pallas, a professor at Columbia University’s Teachers College.

And in his own essay in Gotham Schools’ Community section, Mr. Pallas repeats his concerns about using student testing results to evaluate teachers without taking into consideration their flaws.

So here’s a challenge, and a proposal. The challenge is to state education policymakers across the country who have hitched their teacher-evaluation systems to measures that seek to isolate teachers’ contributions to their students’ learning: Develop clear and consistent guidelines for assigning teachers to rating categories that take into account the inherent uncertainty and errors in the value-added measures and their variants.

You can read more on SchoolBook later today about how the new teacher evaluation system may work in New York City, based upon the framework reached last week.

Schools remain closed through Friday. Public school people, enjoy the week off.

Meanwhile, does anyone have an answer for Shilpa Spencer, who posted the following question on the SchoolBook page for Public School 29 John M. Harrigan page in Brooklyn:

Zone for Ps 29

How can I figure out the zone that PS 29 covers? I can see how you can plug in an address on the DOE website and figure out your zoned school, but to try to move into a good zone, how do you figure out the school’s zone parameters?

You can answer right on the P.S. 29 page, so that everyone in the community can see the response.

Mary Ann Giordano is the editor of SchoolBook. Follow her on Twitter @magiorNYT.

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Maya Zabar February 23, 2012, 12:34 AM

The other issue, which no one seems to be talking about, is how there are no tests for science, phys. ed, history or special (ie: music and art) subjects. How will those teachers be rated through this policy? And if I, as an English teacher, or math teachers have tests that drive our evaluations, doesn't that mean that we have more pressure and should get paid more? Is it fair that only a portion of teachers are subjected to these standards?

There are SO many problems with this system - it's a spark to a powderkeg waiting to happen. But as usual, the politians make decisions and policy even though they've never spent more than 4 hours walking around a school. Anything to make them look like they're doing some work up in Albany.

I will never understand why people who don't have an MA in education believe they fully comprehend what goes on in a classroom and could teach in a NY minute. Because they went to school? I've gone to the doctor, but I don't dare tell him how to do a heart transplant. Is any other public field subjected to the same or similar standards as teachers? Do we fire cops for not solving enough crimes? Firemen for not putting out fires before severe destruction?

Teaching is as vital and important as law enforcement and fire safety. The SOLE difference is how long it takes to see the true impact. It took most of the city population 10 years to see how badly Bloomberg screwed up city education. A politican is a professional talker. With any statistics, they can convince you of anything.

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Karen Brink-Noonan February 23, 2012, 10:58 PM

This is precisely why this evaluation system is a complete fiasco and won't get off the ground. Politicians are shooting off their ignorant mouths with no idea how to implement this. I guarantee that by the time Cuomo is running for president, this will all be out the window. Unfortunately, there will be casualties...

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Joanne Yatvin February 23, 2012, 5:12 AM

Let's also start evaluating dentists on how often their patients floss, weight loss specialists on how many of their clients keep the pounds off permanently, and pastors on how many souls they save.
What? You say that's not fair because those specialists can't control the behavior of others. Hmmm.

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Chris Reynolds February 23, 2012, 2:37 PM

Over my 30+ years in education as a teacher, principal, and superintendent I have seen many trends in education come and go. The new evaluation system, however, is perhaps the most flawed I have seen. The assumption is being made that teachers are not currently evaluated. In my district, all teachers -- as well as every other employee, instructional and non-instructional - is evaluated annually. The evaluations are rigorous and teachers who do not perform well are given improvement plans that may include everything from required professional development attendance to observing effective teachers' classrooms to book studies and periodic meetings with principals. This new evaluation system is rooted in the idea that one can draw a straight line from a teacher's instruction to a student's performance. Oh, if it were only so. The reality is that there are so many variables that enter into a student's life that it is impossible to do so. We already had in place an evaluation system that worked in our district. Now, we will spend money and use resources that we do not have to fix something that was never broken.

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Stacy Smith February 23, 2012, 4:10 PM

How is it possible to evaluate a teacher based on student test scores when a large portion of the students in question come to their class in the middle of the school year from states, or other countries, with much lower cirriculum standards than NY?! Not to mention that same teacher is also doing their best to work with another group of students whose parents don't even insure they get to school on time, let alone on a regular basis!! The entire mandated testing system of students is flawed!! I feel that the pressure placed on the teacher and students alike are unnecessary and archaic. I don't want my children to be "taught to state mandated tests." I don't feel a test should ever be used as a measure of a child's abilities or intelligence!!

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Marjorie Karlin February 23, 2012, 9:54 PM

Whether or not one wants their children being taught to take these state mandated tests, this is exactly what is going on in public schools. In my school we pit over the exact questions students got incorrect on ELA practice tests and are deliberately told to use these questions to "guide" our instruction. There are no code words in this. Teach to the test is the unofficial motto.

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Emanuele Corso February 24, 2012, 6:16 PM

This "evaluation" scheme has nothing to do with improving education. What this is about is your mayor's implacable and unrelenting campaign to privatized public education. Arguing the matter on the basis of what is or isn't fair, just or reasonable is beside the point. In addition to my schooling I learned to read more than 70 years ago largely by reading the Times. I am deeply resentful after all these years of the Gray Lady's recent desperate and craven appetite for sensationalism to save its circulation. It's been a long relationship but you've lost me now sweetheart.

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Neeta Govind Vallab February 22, 2012, 7:53 PM

Ravitch raises some interesting issues here, but what I would really like to hear her articulate is a specific assessment plan that the teachers unions, parents and tax payers can agree upon. Speaking of assessments in broad strokes is easy and absolutely risk free. Where are the specific details that will inevitably become contentious? Without specifics, it is pointless to discuss teacher assessment. I wish Ravitch with her deep understanding of these issues would take a more definitive stand.

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Vicki Zunitch February 23, 2012, 4:11 AM

It's nice to see a rare mention of parents and taxpayers in your post, but we have no standing in NYC public schools. We have school taxation without representation or a vote.
It's a long, hard road ahead before parents and citizens get any say at all in the education of our children.

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Marjorie Karlin February 23, 2012, 12:28 PM

I would give parents the right to evaluate teachers just as soon as teachers are given the right to evaluate parents. What teacher would want to have the children of a serial complainer? Just a thought though.

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Wendy Holtzman February 25, 2012, 1:45 AM

Exactly! Do they get their children to school regularly and on time? Do they read to the under 8 year olds every day? Do their children read & do their homework every night? Do they make sure their 2nd graders know their addition & subtraction facts & their 3rd graders know all the times tables automatically? Do they come to school well rested & with their glasses?

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Mark Welicky February 22, 2012, 9:56 PM

So what happens to a tenured seasoned teacher who has a student absent approximately 25% of the school year, and this same student leaves the room to take music lessons, and is pulled out for other support services such as ESL or Speech Therapy. How can you hold a teacher accountable when he/she doesn't even have the student in class a large percentage of the time?

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Marjorie Karlin February 23, 2012, 12:32 PM

As far as I was told, each professional who works with students would share a percentage of the student's test scores. I guess the state has a bucket of money to pay for all the statisticians needed to formulate this debacle.

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Tom Neely February 22, 2012, 10:14 PM

Professionals should be evaluated by peers, superiors and those they serve. Ideally, criteria are objective and measurable. I believe the best evaluations are ongoing, feedback is regular. Snapshots are not helpful. Some basic criteria need to be included; attendance, grooming, presentation skills, demeanor and motivation skills might be examples. I am sensitive to the concerns raised and have to ask; "Who spent the last year developing the evaluation?" It came down to the wire with substantial pressure from the Governor. It is 2012, time to move forward.

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Marife Gallagher February 23, 2012, 5:17 AM

I hear you, Maya.

Full disclosure: I'm a public high school English teacher.

We're really talking about English and math teachers, here, at the high school level. To say that P.E. teachers would suffer the same humiliation as English and math teachers under this proposed system is foolish.

I smell a lawsuit and an injunction!

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Buddy Bronx February 23, 2012, 12:11 PM

There are a multitude of reasons why today's students are not generating the higher results that we are seeking from our educational system. A small percentage of teachers cannot be the sole reason for the dismal academic results and high dropout rate in some city schools. Those of us who are old and gray can remember many fellow students who dropped out of high school. These students were not academically inclined. However, until the 1980s these dropouts were not a major problem to our society. In fact, some schools would encourage poorly behaved, classroom distruptive students to leave the educational system. Today, these students are encouraged to stay with the hope that they will "turn around" and follow the college bound group. As a result, they remain on an academic track in which they do not find success. Prior to the 1980s, there were plenty of assembly line and low skill jobs that were available in our economic systems to provide the dropouts with a way to make a living. Think of the millions and millions of low skilled jobs that have disppeared from our economy. From manufacturing assembly lines to gasoline station car jockeys to toll collectors to meter readers- the list is plentiful. Those low skilled jobs provided our nation's non academic workforce a chance to earn a reasonable living for their lives. We are in a panic mode. What do we do with a large faction of our population that may be suited to other work beyond that type requiring a college degree? Other factors are also in play, too. One parent in the household. Too many more exciting things to do online rather than practice math skills or study notes. I am sure a book could be written on this entire subject. Teachers are not the sole reason for the poor performance of today's students.

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Debbie Levy February 24, 2012, 11:37 AM

Oh my! This sounds like a recipe for disaster. May I ask what will happen to teachers (like myself) who are consistently assigned "difficult students," those with home lives and learning difficulties that made them poster children for disruption, high drop out rates, etc. I was a wonderful, dedicated teacher who willingly took on these problematic students, but progress came slowly. Would I be judged, negatively and publicly, it seems, for having students who progressed at a slower rate?
Also, a thought. Recently my doctor prescribed a drug for me that raised my serum cholesterol to unsafe levels, never warning me of the risks. Do I see his name published anywhere? What is this focus on teachers as the source of all the evils in our educational system? We spend a tremendous amount of our own money on supplies, teach too many tired, hungry children of poverty, and somehow all the blame falls on one segment of the system? I taught for 47 years. I'd never choose teaching as a profession now.

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Michael Rosenthal February 24, 2012, 3:58 PM

I am with Joanna Yatvin, when dentists are evaluated on the number of their patients that floss, then teachers should be evaluated on how well their students perform on tests.

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Rudy Kipper February 24, 2012, 6:11 PM

It seems to me that the ultimate issue has NOTHING to do with kids, a little to do with teachers and EVERYTHING to do with who is really getting the $700 mllion. The worst part is that once these companies taste all this "easy" money, they will lobby like crazy to keep it coming.
Is there any transparency on what companies are receiving the money, who owns/runs/consults for these companies and how much they are paying to governmantal agencies, politicians etc.This is a great story waiting to be written.
Remember- it is ALWAYS about money- nothing more- nothing less!

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Theresa Timmer February 25, 2012, 4:40 AM

Why aren't the 12,700 teachers of New York striking TOMORROW?!!!!!!!!
Do not go silent on this publication, this deceitful lie about teachers!

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Raj Kumar Oberoi February 27, 2012, 6:37 AM

Evaluation of teacher should not only be linked to the test performance of student but teacher should also be given a handle to help a weak student to undergo psychiatrist evaluation and report of psycho analysis should also be given wait age in evaluation of teacher. This step will bring fish out improvement both in quality of education as well improve student beyond control of teacher.

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Kevin Anderson March 1, 2012, 3:27 PM

This is not only occurring in NYC. Here in Illinois, principals must have at least 30% of their evaluation based on student performance starting Fall 2012 and teachers will have the student performance component required for all schools no later than 2016. At the same time, the state testing framework will be changing and passing cut scores for students in grades 3-8 are being drastically raised to obtain the result of no more than 50% of test-takers passing the test. This is supposed to "prepare" everyone for the new PARCC test in 2014, which will have fewer students passing than is the current norm. So, evaluations must show progress but fewer students will be allowed to pass. Is this the definition of CRAZY?

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