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Is New Sex-Education Course Too Much or Just Enough?

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May 2, 2012, 6:11 p.m.

Last summer, the Education Department decided that for the first time in nearly two decades, students in New York City’s public middle and high schools would be required to take sex-education classes beginning this school year, using a curriculum that includes lessons on how to use a condom and the appropriate age for sexual activity. At
East Side High Community School, the school newspaper, The East Sider, wrote about the new course in its January issue, before the course had started. The article, below, has been lightly edited. What do you think about the new sex-education classes? Do you think they go too far? How are they being introduced in your school? Respond to our query below.

By Shaquana Reed
11th grade
The East Sider
East Side Community School

This school year, the city’s Department of Education introduced a new required course for sexual education for grades 6-12 that was scheduled to begin in January. As news about the course spread, many objected to this change, claiming it’s exposing kids to too much information.

The new Sex Ed course is nothing like the old one, where it was all about abstinence and different sexually transmitted diseases. During the old sex-ed courses, junior Tania Dorado stated, “Some kids might have learned something new, but others may not.”

The new course discusses more steps students should take to protect themselves once they’ve already began having intercourse. Michelle Kreevoy, the guidance counselor for high school students at East Side, agrees with the changes being made. “I think it is better that sex-ed classes address other topics, especially sexually transmitted diseases which you can get from not just having sex,” he said.

The Department of Education did not mandate what curriculum each school must use, but has been recommending out-of-the-box sets of lessons by a group called HealthSmart since 2007. An article in The New York Post in October said the company offered lesson plans that include assignments that require students to compare condom prices at different stores, and learn how to put on a condom. The course even goes as far as to talk about masturbation and the different ways to do it.

But a spokeswoman for the Education Department said city officials worked with HealthSmart to make modifications to the curriculum so that it would be more appropriate for New York City students and meet D.O.E. policy.

Some parents argue that the information being provided is not something schools should have the right to teach and is exposing children to things too early, which can lead to even more confusion. The subjects will be taught to children as young as 11, and some worry, complaining that their children are too young for such topics.

The Department of Education argues that parents have the choice to opt their children out of these courses if they choose, but stands firm by their decision to offer these classes. An East Side junior argued, “Personally, I’m not sexually active or anything, but at least the Department of Education cares about the well-being of students.”

Complaints about these classes may drop when people learn of the alarming rate of sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy among New York City’s youth. Adam Klasfeld, a reporter for the Court House News, wrote about New York’s high teen pregnancy rate.

“But the most recent long-term study of teen pregnancy, which draws from statistics between 1997 and 2007, shows that New York City’s rates have been higher than those of the rest of the country,” he wrote. This helps make the point of the many people who think the changes are warranted.

Here at East Side, parents seem to have little worry over sex being discussed around their children. According to Ms. Kreevoy: “We recently gave all 9th grade parents a letter talking about the condom availability program. Only one parent in the 9th grade requested that their child not receive condoms.”

Whether you agree or disagree with the change, this coming year students will be exposed to some new information. It’s up to you and your parents to decide if it’s just too much or just enough.

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Joneen Mackenzie November 9, 2011, 5:54 PM

I applaud you for talking about parental involvement and the opportunity to talk with their children about this most important topic.

I don’t think people “fear” sex education. I think they are degusted by the normalizing of teen sex and also the lowering the bar of behavioral expectations regarding self regulation and impulse control. Absolutely children should get some guidance and instruction on this topic, but graphic sex images and language does nothing but desensitize the child to this activity.

Parents also are being told over and over again that abstinence education does not work. The constant drumbeat that abstinence education is not evidenced based is old and tired. What about the Jemmott study?

Also, at the same time Planned Parenthood, SIECUS, Healthy Teen Network and Advocates for Youth coordinate their talking points about the futility of teaching abstinence education; they call their programs abstinence based. What is up with that? What about reaching the heart of a child with issues they are struggling with? What about teaching the skills to have a healthy relationship? How about substituting love education for sex education?

The Center for Relationship Education exists to educate, equip and empower individuals with the skills necessary to develop healthy relationships, build strong lifetime committed partnerships / marriages and form safe and stable families for the well-being of children, adults and communities. This is what adolescents want to know!

When we teach these life, love and leadership skills to adolescents, they respond well because we are not just imparting information, we are actually touching their heart!
To find out more www.myrelationshipcenter.org

Respectfully submitted,
Joneen Mackenzie RN

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Craig Garrison November 8, 2011, 10:48 PM

I'll agree on the mandate...its just sensible that this type of information would be inclusive of the curriculum....and I would advocate a 'pay it forward' approach in that students become advocates of sorts themsleves by taking their knowledge and not just talking to their parents about it but actually teaching their parents, this in turn creates the 'responsibility effect' as the student gains more respect for the information and may very well make better decisions in the near future regarding their own sexual habits...

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Joanne Howard November 9, 2011, 10:05 AM

I grew up in Central New Jersey in the 1960s and my public school offered age appropriate sex education beginning in the 3rd grade. The incidence of unintended pregnancies in my small school district was practically nonexistent because both boys and girls received the proper education and information about our bodies. The information was integrated into our weekly health classes. Why all the fuss about giving children appropriate information?

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Jessica Lappin November 9, 2011, 5:00 PM

Knowledge is power. Mandatory sex-education classes will arm children with facts and help families discuss what is often an embarrassing subject.

Teen pregnancy is on the rise in the Unites States, and New York’s teen pregnancy rates are higher than the national average. Age-appropriate sex education can help turn this trend around. Studies show that students who take these classes delay the initiation of sex, have fewer partners, and are more likely to use contraception.

As parent, I support this policy to give students greater control over their health and well-being.

Jessica Lappin
Council Member
5th District – Manhattan

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Cassy Beckstead November 9, 2011, 6:58 PM

I agree with having the class in school even though, yes it is a parents job to talk to their children about abstinence but with the way kids are these days they are starting early and don't know what they are risking. I honestly think that when they take it in 10th grade they should bring bake the baby where they take the baby home for a weekend. This shows them what it is really like to have a baby and that it is possible for them to get pregnant and thats what they have to deal with.

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Roberta Ferdschneider January 31, 2012, 1:53 AM

It's about time!

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Bruce Smith January 31, 2012, 5:31 PM

This is necessary. I advocate an emphasis on responsible parenthood, along with developing a responsible attitude towards oneself and one's body, in the context of a more general discussion of the paired themes of liberty and and responsibility in the tenth grade advisory class that my school has developed. But this is such an important topic that we should circle back to it or at least touch on it every year, rather than focusing on it intently in one year and then forgetting about it for two before we come back to it in high school, by which time too many teens will have made babies.

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Alex Stimmel February 3, 2012, 11:32 AM

This is an important subject that gets talked around, instead of about, too much. I also agree that abstinence discussions are essential to the subject. This needs to be done in the context of larger social issues like pressure to be sexual - in any way - from an early age. While licensed health teachers are the best people to run sex ed classes, I'd like to see the City make an effort to include guidance counselors/social workers. School staff who know the kids in a non-academic way and are trained to discuss sensitive subjects should be at the forefront of these much-needed abstinence and sexual-expectations-of-your-peers-type talks. They should be led in a discussion group format, not via normal pedagogy - I think we'd reach a lot more kids this way.

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Michael McGee May 3, 2012, 3:41 PM

I applaud the decision to have more comprehensive sexuality education in schools. As a long-time educator I know how much misinformation young people get from popular culture. My undergraduate students think that sex is supposed to be like they've seen in porn, and the teenagers I've worked with are desperate for help in learning how to have meaningful relationships. The fact is that the average age of first intercourse is 17 years old...that means some kids have sex earlier and some later. They ALL need information and support to grow into sexually healthy adults.

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Simone Levin November 18, 2011, 4:12 AM

I was at a PEP meeting tonight where the DOE mentioned that schools will have the ability to opt out of the program, if their parents push for that. I hope that the DOE will take the time to EDUCATE parents on the new mandatory sex education program, so that they can make an informed decision on whether or not it is the right program for their children/school.

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Julie LaRosa April 25, 2012, 12:44 AM

I was told by a NYS high school health teacher in Rochester, NY that students who are receiving an IEP diploma are not mandeated to have sex education. Is this true?

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Dayna Addison May 19, 2012, 11:39 PM

I have conversations with my kids about sex whenever they ask - they are 9 and 11 - we talk about dating and boys and what it’s like/could be like for them to be gay, lesbian and/or bisexual and/or transgendered we talk about sexual feelings, and sexual behavior even though puberty hasn't started, they've heard things at school and on the bus and when they ask, I tell them what I know or I do my best to find out, because they and I need to have open communication with them and I don't want them to feel that diversity is moral political issue when it is not, nor that having sex before they are married is of that same issue, especially when it doesn't apply for their male counterpart. I also let them know that having someone pressure them to have sex or let someone pressure them to touch them or have them to someone else is WRONG and abusive, even if they are married, should they be, and that same pressure is wrong no matter whom they are with and that their bodies are solely their own, belonging only to them. My daughters know what a period is, even though they don't have one yet, and they understand what the menstrual blood does and what function in their bodies that it plays. As they begin to hormonally transform aka growth spurts (ever hear of those?) we talk with their pediatrician whom they have great rapport and beginning to become hormonally transformed, I know they will soon become young girls who will be capable of reproducing sexually.
The other thing here is that even those they can reproduce, doesn't mean that as a teenager they will be mature enough to assume the responsibilities of a parent if that should happen in their lives or that they'll even understand how to pair sex with emotions or getting an STD - what I won’t do is make them ignorant to reality in the hope that ignorance will cause them to abstain from sex.
”Statistics show that the Netherlands has the world's lowest rates of teenage pregnancy, abortion, and childbearing (Feijoo, 2008)". I have to disagree here in a way and to some extent, unless you are extremely sheltered you have children who have an idea of sex and are exposed to sex normally. “When children are taught that certain parts of their bodies are bad or dirty, they often grow into adults who are ashamed of their bodies, unable to accept or even feel their sexual feelings. When children learn that a supposedly benevolent god has created body parts and curiosity that can be dirty and dangerous, their eroticism often becomes the focus of terrible, lifelong internal conflict."
They see animals having sex and reproducing and understand the biology of it. Why do I sense this, religiosity about sex? Why is there such prudishness? Really? Everyone has sex - sexual relations is/are neutral, people however are not, their intentions are...there is rape, and abuse you get the picture. Perhaps instead of teaching about abstinence we should be teaching about rape and abuse as it pertains to sex, and instead of teaching about sex, sex, sex, sex, we should incorporate more biology to it on a health science class setting, instead of a moral value setting. If we want our children to have the values that we teach them to them, perhaps then we as the parents and the moral society that we choose to have them around should agree that we are instilling in them double standard of both self-regulation and self-impulse control, neither of which is either of your topics to be discussed, and should be yet "safe sex or abstinence" is.

When it comes to sex, one has to understand that for the majority concerning any individual, one must be biologically and chemically ready, aware for sex. If you teach your kids about how their bodies are evolving, then they will be better prepared to make better choices in regard to sex. With my kids, I could care less whether they are married or not. Marriage isn't a fairy tale, and if the girl gets pregnant, it’s not the "fix -it package" - This is not what we are teaching our youth, all we are doing is teaching them what happens after you do it, what goes on while you are doing it, and how not to do it, we don't teach them the evolution of sex, and in that regard, we are sadly lacking.
To help make young people’s sexuality less alien, some psychologists "remind people of the similarities between it and adult sexuality: both groups are challenged by performance pressure, the desire for validation, insufficient information, and inadequate communication skills. Both groups want sex to provide closeness, pleasure, feelings of being special and desired, and a chance for self-expression. But American society actually discourages young people from developing Sexual Intelligence; when it comes to sex, young people are a repressed minority. They suffer from the systematic withholding of sexual information, health services, and products." By the same turn the information that we put out to the public to other groups are for the adults of those groups and are only for children and juveniles when in relation to their abuse or exploitation. Here's something else to consider - "We give kids the most powerful communications device in human history—with virtually no training, instruction, or limits—and are shocked when they misuse it." With regard to our youth, there is even more perspectives to consider; "Isn’t it time for religious leaders to start talking about love and forgiveness rather than behaving like a political lobby? A report to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services in 2007 determined that Title V abstinence Education programs did not work. With expressed zeal to protect the rights of the unborn, an always vocal campaign topic, how many legislators would be willing to adopt and love an unwanted child if the mother could be convinced to carry the baby to term? Perhaps religious leaders and politicians, who really value a right to life, should be vigorously working to prevent Child Abuse in this country."

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Alice Neal June 9, 2012, 3:15 AM

I am a christian and pro-life BUT i do have to agree with what you are saying i have a 2yr old daughter and i want to be like you when it comes to the whole sex topic i want her to be comfortable and willing to come to me and ask questions about sex and i dont it to be taboo in our household i want her to be comfortable with her body and sexuality the same as i am with my own only teaching abstinence is unrealistic i know this because i was a teen and im telling you what sex is a BIG topic in schools among kids and teens so i want to start young with her yes i am pro-life and thats fine so i want to make sure i teach her about different forms of birth control if she were to choose to be sexually active not only for pregnancy control but condoms for std prevention so i just want to applaud you on how you handle sexual conversations with your kids i wish every parent would be more open about this stuff

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Alice Neal June 9, 2012, 2:59 AM

I am 21 and have a 2 yr. old daughter. I am very happy that this school is taking these steps to help teens to learn about how to be safe when it comes to sex and explaining different topics, because ONLY teahing abstinence is unrealistic alot of teens do have sex and if they are going to do it at least we are teaching them to be safe and respect their own bodies and protect their bodies against pregnancy and stds. some people say they are too young maybe maybe not but at least we are teaching them to be responsible when it comes to their sex life and to me that is very important when going into adulthood. and i know i didnt learn what i really needed in my schools sex ed class all they talk about from 6th - 12th grade is the stds (which is very impotant) BUT its also important to discuss other important things when it comes to sex so that the ones who choose to take that step an be wise in making that huge decision and alot of parents dont talk about the indepth sex topic with their kids either because its taboo in their house or maybe they think their child is too young or maybe they just dont know how to start the conversation. Here is an example i started dating my now husband when he was 17 almost 18 i on the other hand was already 18 but his parents never ever talked about sex with him so he learned all of the stuff he knew from friends and magazines his school didnt have a sex ed class (it is a very christian school) all they would tell there students was about abstinence AND in the handbook it said if you have premarital sex you will be expelled if they find out which is wild to me and trust me you do not want your precious children to learn about sex through peers some of the stuff other kids tell you can be harmfull very harmfull ex. one girl told me that a way to prevent pregnancy is to drink a capfull of bleach before you have sex (that can kill you) isnt that crazy or another person told me if you put one yellow skittle in your vagina and let it melt before you do it it will prevent pregnancy because of a chemical in the yellow dye! trust me there are many other myths

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