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Hundreds of Parents Sign Petition Critical of NEST+M Principal

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July 19, 2012, 1:26 p.m.

For years, mounting tension between parents and the principal at New Explorations Into Science, Technology and Math High School, one of the most sought-after public schools in the city, has been a hot topic of conversation, with parents quietly — and sometimes not so quietly — critiquing the administrator’s communication skills, her hiring acumen, even her “quirky” demeanor.

But the discord reached a discomfiting peak this week when more than 500 parents and faculty members signed an online petition that chides the principal, Olga Livanis, as being overly punitive in this year’s rating of several well-liked teachers, for having not shared important budgetary information with parents, and for the tone she set at the school, which has 1,600 students in kindergarten through 12th grade and is on the Lower East Side.

The petition — a laundry list of complaints or an attempted coup d’état, depending on whom you spoke with this week — accuses Dr. Livanis, who has been the principal since 2006, of giving several well-liked staff members “unsatisfactory” ratings in their annual evaluations, a move that could jeopardize their potential to get a raise and positions teaching summer school and coaching after-school activities, not to mention get another job.

The petition, which implored Dr. Livanis to “please work with us to address the concerns stated above,” also takes issue with the decision to also make the school’s parent coordinator the pupil accounting secretary, which parents say has left her unable to do her job full time. It characterizes the School Leadership Team as “dysfunctional.” And it objects to a staffing decision this past school year that left the school without money for dance, chess and technology classes before the school’s PTA stepped in to cover the costs.

Wrote one parent, Zhenia Stadnik, who signed the petition, which was made public earlier this week: “I wholeheartedly support this petition.” She added: “And the issue of clear communication is of paramount importance.”

“Thank you for hearing us,” wrote another.

Dr. Livanis is traveling out of the country, but responded by e-mail to say that she would be meeting with the PTA leadership in the coming weeks to discuss the concerns.

A Department of Education spokeswoman, Erin Hughes, said officials were aware of the complaints and were “working closely with staff at the school to address them.”

Parents at the school, which is commonly known as NEST+m, said they were particularly concerned and puzzled by the poor teacher grades because they were doled out to well-liked staff members, including a popular middle-school math teacher, a favorite physical education teacher and a third-grade teacher who has been at the school for several years.

One mother who signed the petition called one of the teachers who received the rating “a marvelous role model, mentor and teacher for our students.”

About the ratings, the mother wrote: “I think there is something wrong with our ratings, not with our teachers.”

Other parents gushed about the enthusiasm and skill set of poorly rated teachers and called the ratings of cherished teachers “disheartening.”

The petition was followed by an anonymous letter sent to officials in the Department of Education that took further aim at Dr. Livanis and characterized the culture of the school as “one of fear and intimidation.”

The letter echoed the concerns of parents like Rachel Leinweber, who says the school has seen unprecedented turnover in the assistant principal’s position in recent years and called Dr. Livanis “antagonistic.”

“It’s mind-numbing,” said Ms. Leinweber, who has written several complaints to the Department of Education.

Ms. Livanis has been principal at NEST+m for six years. Before that she was assistant principal of physics and science at Stuyvesant High School, where she had taught chemistry, biology and general science.

Parents said Wednesday that they were not all seeking the same outcome. Some wanted Dr. Livanis to step down, or even fired. Others said they simply wanted her to become more responsive. And others said they wanted her to know, “We’re watching you.”

“Our attention is not to lambaste the school, but to let her know our teachers and our kids need more support,” said Michelle Luhan, a parent of a seventh grader and a fifth grader.

This is not the first time parents at NEST+m have had issues with the principal. The previous principal, Celenia Chevere, resigned after a dispute with the Department of Education over the city’s plans to put a charter school in the building.

And Nest+m is not the only specialized school where there has been friction involving its leadership in recent years. Valerie Reidy, the principal at the Bronx High School of Science, another school with a demanding entrance exam, has also been accused of ineffectively communicating with parents and faculty members and of awkwardly addressing faculty issues.

Ms. Reidy has defended herself openly, and in an article in New York magazine last year claimed her detractors were simply resistant to much-needed change at the school.

Kyle Spencer is a freelancer writer in New York City.

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Rachel Leinweber July 19, 2012, 11:19 PM

After years of actually trying to engage this principal at NESTm and its ever rotating lower school administration in a meaningful dialogue, parents such as myself and many others began a letter writing campaign this past fall 2011. As is usually the case with parents contacting the Bloomberg 'owned' DOE, and getting nowhere, many of the families started to react to a long term sense of frustration : why should such a great group of students and teachers study and learn in an atmosphere of intimidation of teachers and with 5 (!) different AP's for the lower school in a 3 year time frame? The lack of regard for the teachers, student body and the families is the foremost reason that the situation has come to this point. While the petition was written by a small group of people, it was signed by over 500 (as of last night).. a sure sign that something at NESTm is not as it should be.

Many of us, including myself who did not draft this petition, feel that our principal should be an able leader, willing to acknowledge the 'learning and family community' that makes up a school, and that she should be able to foster good education and promote good teaching and learning through support and development. All these qualities I mention are ones that presumably are supported by the Bloomberg owned DOE at Tweed; yet I am at a loss to identify ANY of these qualities from Dr. Livanis. I for one am grateful to Schoolbook for even venturing to cover this story, but I wonder whether ANYONE at the Chancellor's offices at Tweed are truly willing to listen? Our public school system has been reduced to testing and 'accountability' under the Bloomberg/Klein legacy... and so it leaves me wondering whether a real and qualitative change can be encouraged where Dr. Livanis and teachers and families can begin to work COLLABORATIVELY . If this were the outcome, most of us, including yours truly, would be perfectly happy to keep our principal, locate an able and truly qualified A.P, and return to our respective roles as parents, PTA volunteers, and supporters of our little learners...

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Vicki Zunitch July 20, 2012, 5:44 AM

No one in power in NYC will Ever work collaboratively with a parent again until they are required to by law. Overturn mayoral control and take back your rights as a citizen.

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Milton Diaz July 20, 2012, 12:29 PM

Dear Ms. Leinweber, I am a teacher at Stuyvesant High School. I commend you for your proactive approach to a systemic problem. Please, keep me informed: mdiaz431@aol.com.

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Elizabeth Traynor July 20, 2012, 3:11 PM

To add to Ms. Leinweber's details about the administration . . . over the course of six years, NEST has had approximately 6 lower school APs, 4 Middle School APs, and 7 Upper School APs. Mr. Rosoff, has had three different AP positions within the school. Has the PTA shared this information with the DOE and our school's superintendent? Yes. AP's that work with the school community and not solely for Dr, Livanis, don't last at NEST.

NEST is an amazing school. It is a success because of the teachers, the PTA, and our hardworking and dedicated students.

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Milton Diaz July 19, 2012, 6:53 PM

I question the screening process in place for hiring administartors in our NYC schools. Those hired prove--over and over again--to be incompetent and a detriment to the education of our children.

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Anne Reingold July 19, 2012, 7:48 PM

As Co President of the Bronx High School of Science for the last two years, I would like to correct the reporter's assertion that the principal was "accused of ineffectively communicating with parents..." In fact, a more careful reading of the NY Magazine article the author cites would have noted the reference in that same piece where parents indicated support for the school leadership and the principal.

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Katherine Flores July 19, 2012, 10:46 PM

I have two children at Nest and did not sign this petition. Although I have heard the complaints about Dr Livanis I do not participate in them. No, she is not a warm and fuzzy Principal and no she doesn't wish us all Happy Mother's day or greet us at the gate every morning. But she has brought our school to its current standing as one of the best in the state with her policies and decisions. So, well regarded, in fact, that Nightline did a special piece on it. It may sound like a lot to say that hundreds signed this petition but, in fact, Nest is a K-12 school with many thousands of parents.

I know some of the reasons for her low ratings of these teachers and, frankly, it doesn't matter to me if a teacher is "well-liked" it matters to me how they do their job as a whole. Dr. Livanis has high standards for teachers and I am grateful for that. If I wanted warm and fuzzy and a principal who makes hiring decisions based on how likable people are I would not send my kids to Nest.

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Jane Nest July 20, 2012, 3:14 AM

Katherine, I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think you have the whole picture, and your trust in the principle may be misplaced.

You say, "it doesn't matter to me if a teacher is "well-liked" it matters to me how they do their job as a whole". I think most would agree, and that wording in the article grated on me. It isn't important that they are popular, but that they are good at their job. Well, they are. If these ratings were about their job performance then you would expect that these teachers must have had unsatisfactory classroom observations. Yet that isn't the case. These ratings are indefensible, and if you doubt that then ask Livanis to defend them. Ask her why her staff was outside each morning at the end of the year dressed in black to protest the mistreatment of their colleagues. There are bad teachers, and bad teachers should get bad ratings, but these are not those teachers. I'm writing anonymously because as a teacher at NEST+m (7 years of "satisfactory" service) I am afraid to speak my mind in a public forum, for fear of retribution.

As for the school being a good school under Livanis, I'll remind you it was a good school before her, and it will be a good school after her. That isn't a reflection of her leadership, rather it is a reflection of school. Even Nero couldn't mismanage the Rome into the grave. Listen to the students, staff and parents who work with her, don't just look at the test scores.

As far as there being thousands of parents, lets be a little more precise than that. There are 1600 students. At the max then there would be 3200 parents, but many parents have multiple kids at NEST, so we are likely around 2500 parents. That means only 20% signed the petition. While this number is not a majority it is large. This wasn't a poll of parents, these were people of at the drop of a dime went out of their way to sign the petition. I bet you only get about 500 parents to show up to Parent Teacher Night, and everyone knows that is coming. If you want to try a "I support Dr. Livanis" petition and see how many parents sign it in a week I think you will fall far short.

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Jody Ripplinger July 20, 2012, 5:33 PM

Katherine, I too was reticent to sign the petition, but once I read it, I felt that the claims were legitimate and not overly accusatory. Did you read the petition? It addressed several issues, not just the unsatisfactory teacher ratings which, I agree, may have been doled out for appropriate reasons (even though that appears not to be the case according to several other teachers and parents).

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Katherine Flores July 19, 2012, 10:59 PM

"Hundreds of parents" does not mean much considering there are many thousands of us with children at Nest. I did not sign this petition because I don't believe we should be giving teachers high scores for being "likable." I send my children to Nest because I am grateful they have high standards for the students and the teachers. If parents looked into Nest before sending their kids they would know that Dr. Livanis is a data driven and competitive principal with a background as the principal of Stuyvesant High School. This is not a person who is going to put a teacher being "well liked" high on the priority list. Why should it be? Maybe those teachers were given unsatisfactory scores because their work was unsatisfactory.

Our family has had amazing teachers in our years at Nest but they were incredible because they inspired and challenged children to do their best not because everybody liked them. These amazing teachers were hired and retained by Dr. Livanis.

Nest has risen to be one the top schools in the state thanks to Dr. Livanis. She is not perfect, of course. But I don't think Nest would be in such high standing today if someone else had been at the helm these past six years.

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Eve Magistra July 20, 2012, 12:41 AM

There are serious problems with the administration at NEST+m. Dr. Livanis listens to no one, disregarding the opinions and wishes of teachers, parents, and students. She has consistently ignored the recommendations of the C-30 committee, hiring assistant principals that are not good “fits”, and then gets “rid” of them. The AP positions are "revolving doors" and the occasional effective assistant principal, like Ms. Lennon, who collaborates and works well with the school community, is quickly removed.

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Vicki Zunitch July 20, 2012, 5:41 AM

The DOE is working with school staff? Did the New York Times ask why the DOE is not also working with parents...let alone the citizens and taxpayers who have a say in education in the Free parts of NY State? Oh yeah, that's right...as several DOE people have told me: "You're just a parent. You have nothing to do with anything." Guess the Times agrees.

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Jane Nest July 20, 2012, 10:56 AM

I'm on staff, and the DOE has said nothing to me or anyone on staff that I know of. If you think they don't listen to parents I would suggest that they are even less apt to listen to teachers. I think that was yet another line from the DOE which consistently backs its principles as long as they don't challenge the DOE.

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